CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY
Why doesn't the police place the description, name or photo of these criminals to the media, I hope they have a logical reason. The most successful crim apprehension show in the USA "americas most Wanted" always detail their criminals last location and down to what they were last wearing, how come in TnT it's like a secret, who the criminals arer? ONLY IN THE LAND OF FETE, RUM AND CORUPTION.

CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY
Why doesn't the police place the description, name or photo of these criminals to the media, I hope they have a logical reason. The most successful crim apprehension show in the USA "americas most Wanted" always detail their criminals last location and down to what they were last wearing, how come in TnT it's like a secret, who the criminals arer? ONLY IN THE LAND OF FETE, RUM AND CORUPTION.

Well I've just about read it all now... I guess "Mr. Big" is back and he's a serial Killer and apparently with a sidekick... I thought the cops were on 'stand by' for a flight to Tobago, did they just decide to bag it and search here?? “He moves around and does not stay one place for too long,” another source said. - I could be wrong but if they know who it is, he doesn't stay in one place for too long and he keeps jumping in-between islands don't you think it would be best to put his name and photo out to the public??? It seems this story came from one of the Saw movies...I hope the family isn't tolerating these farce stories.

"while the others were released, pending further inquiries".

Well I wonder what happened to the pending inquiries? Were they enquired upon?

Or is it just one of those things?

Are we to feel comfortable reading this?

Mr Police

SHOOT TO KILL THESE MAD DOGS!

I for one willing to accept this story as representing the latest in this case. Why then does the TTPS operate in this manner? If it is going to release this level of information then why not also release pictures of the suspect? Is there some dotish law against doing that? If there is then the TTPS violates it when it feels like it so go ahead and violate it again.

If the TTPS wants the public to be its eyes and ears then release the picture of the suspect!!

It easy to start ah rumour that the police doh want to release the picture because they too lazy to chase down tips.

so he was the prime suspect in the killing of the swedish couple last october, he hack to death a businessman in barataria.why was there not a manhunt for this killer when he killed or butchered the people from sweden?so much secruity for the summit ,yet we can't put the information and the man power out there to stop this animal or community leader from killing tourist or ordinary people.

Only when a "Big Boy" in Government is affected directly by a serious crime would Manning and Joseph move quickly.
But one wonders - all dem "Big Boys" are well protected at the taxpayers' expense.

"Trinidad and Tobago, I weep for thee."

The murderous assault on a white British couple on Emancipation day 2009, in Tobago may have darker implications than meets the eye.

People predisposed to violence may be activated by trigger words from a different context.

Deep-seated pent up rage can explode Mau-mau-like against innocent descendants of hated slave masters.

“Do not shoot until you see the whites, the whites of their eyes...” quoted recently from a political platform addressing a particular constituency, “cutlass”, and “flog them, flog them” are all trigger words that can incite to violence.

In Last Sunday's Guardian Prof. Hutchinson expounded at length in an interview (see below) that examines such stimuli on an aberrant society.

At present we have many malcontents living in squalor amidst the plenty of this land. Rage will not be directed against the tribal oppressor, but more likely against the encroaching visiting victim, member of an expanding community taking up our paradise.

Zeal for political power has dimmed the consciousness of our God fearing PM to the plight of our dispossessed suffering from social deprivation.

His obtuseness to the significance of his influence upon his loyal people will not be lost on the outside world.

All the utterances of past politicians combined have never resulted in such mindless violence being wrought on whoever dares to reside in T&T.

Prof. Hutchinson’s words should be studied carefully.

A further complication exists in T&T because of our extreme ghetto promiscuity, resulting in people not knowing their siblings in successive generations. Involuntary incest has been producing brain damaged people adding to our compounded problems.

Our Government has failed to address so many issues that make a cumulative contribution to our present criminal insurgency.

And the PM sits in his ivory towered palace insulated by contrived deafness against the continuing decay.

MFRahman.

How sane is T&T?
Anthony Milne
Published: 2 Aug 2009

Prof Gerard Hutchinson
Anthony Milne
“Almost everywhere in Trinidad and Tobago we see examples of aberrant behaviour”

Prof Gerard Hutchinson is head of the Department of Psychiatry at UWI’s Faculty of Medical Sciences at Mt Hope. In this interview he addresses the “ultimate question” of whether a society has a collective sense of mental health or wellbeing. If so, how do you address that, especially if the signs suggest that the unravelling or deterioration of that society?
Prof Gerard Hutchinson feels it must be generally accepted that societies create a psychological atmosphere, influenced by whatever is taking place in the society at that time.
“I think that at this current stage in Trinidad and Tobago’s history we are struggling with, on the one hand, a sense of wellbeing derived from the high revenues from our natural resources,” Hutchinson said, “and, on the other, problems in health care, problems with the high levels of criminal behaviour, and a range of things that suggest all is not well.”
Asked how these might be best addressed to create healthy society, Hutchinson said: “We seem to lay the responsibility at the door of the government, but how does a society contribute to its own
recovery?”
Does it just hope that the government will wave a magic wand for the problems to disappear? What can society do?
“I would suggest that one of the ways is to address the mental problems that are afflicting the society,” Hutchinson said. “Almost everywhere in Trinidad and Tobago we see examples of aberrant behaviour, and I think we’ve grown so immune to dealing with it we either ignore it or pretend it is normal.” It is a question of deviance and the capacity of citizens in the society to conform to what the society expects, Hutchinson said. “But if the society has minimal expectations, or where the norms are not clearly defined, then deviance also becomes difficult to define,” Hutchinson pointed out. “You hear it in advertisements which say if you want to stop crime you too must avoid behaviour that is breaking the law.”
Does Hutchinson feel this being addressed in any real way?
“Well I think there is some awareness and many writers have referred to the immorality of Trinidad and Tobago society, the lack of respect for rules, the ease with which people outsmart each other, the high degree of competitiveness,” he said.
Has this always been so, is it increasing, and if so why?
“I think it’s always been so and I also think it is increasing,” Hutchinson said. “This is speculation on my part, but there was lack of a consistent colonial influence, the Spanish, the French the British, whereas in places like Barbados it was consistently British.” To come to the present, the behavioural response to norms is not being properly enforced or defined in Trinidad and Tobago and as a result people are drifting away, Hutchinson said.
“That drifting affects the youngest people in the society most,” he said. “I think this is why we are seeing so many gangs: they are drifting away from the appropriate social norms into deviant social norms as they look for some kind of mooring to hold onto to give their lives some sense of meaning.”
But who should be providing these moorings?
“All the institutions in the society, and I think that we are failing to return to mental health by not addressing the cognitive and the behavioural issues generated by the fragmentation of the society,” Hutchinson said.
“Children who are growing up in environments that are more chaotic, either on the personal and familiar level or on the community level, are not afforded the opportunity to respond to this chaos and invariably lean towards deviance,” he added.
Who, then, should be leading them on the right path and why is it they are drifting away?
“I think the responsibility lies with system of education that we have and the capacity to respond to deviance in an effective way,” Hutchinson said. “This is the public sector response, the capacity to provide, for example, comprehensive evaluations, both medical and cognitive of all the children in the society that would allow us to identify those who are drifting to the deviant end earlier.”
What does Hutchinson mean by “cognitive”?
“Cognition refers to your capacity to think through the issues that your life generates, or that life generates for you,” he explained. “It refers to your sensory apparatus working effectively, to your brain being able to process the information that your sensory apparatus provides, and in that processing formulate ways to act that would result in your optimum wellbeing.”
So all this has been interfered with as well as the mental health system that might assist?
“Flaws in your cognition would affect your ability to make appropriate choices and your ability to respond to life’s challenges appropriately,” said Hutchinson, “and the lack of support that is evident means that you are going to have more mental-health problems.”
In what ways do these mental-health problems express themselves?
“As far as crime is concerned, children who act in ways that are deliberately and diametrically opposed to norms set for them have a diagnosis that is labeled ‘conduct disorder’: if this is not treated or addressed they invariably grow up to develop ‘antisocial personality disorder’,” Hutchinson said. People like this act in ways that are anti-society, they have little remorse and seek their own personal benefit above the benefit of the group in ways that are destructive to the group and ultimately to themselves.”
Are there problems in the state of the mental health facilities in Trinidad and Tobago?
“Well the facilities are unfortunately not where they should be,” Hutchinson said. “For example we continue to have one mental hospital, which is the St Ann’s Hospital, and while there have been attempts to refurbish wards there still remain a lot of areas that are reminiscent of several years ago, and the old asylum, inhumane, custodial environment.” “This also means that people are unwilling to have their children or their relatives admitted to the mental hospital or even treated there because they don’t wish to expose their relatives those kinds of environments,” Hutchinson said. That’s one issue, so a restructuring, a reconfiguration of the hospital is necessary Hutchinson feels, and also a reconfiguration of how it relates to the society?because it still is highly stigmatised: it still is a place that people think that when you go there you are tainted for the rest of your life.
So what hope is there of something being done to cure a society that seems to be out of control?
“I think that there needs to be a coalescing of agencies, education, health, I think the private sector has to get involved as well, supporting mental health initiatives at the community and personal levels,” Hutchinson said. “We have to tie in mental health with a range of things, not just people being mad but also, people’s eating habits, their sexual behaviour, issues like drug use, the way we drive, all those things.”
Education campaigns could help stop these escalating and help people to find better ways to cope with the issues that they face, and not contribute to them by making inappropriate choices, Hutchinson suggested. “From the treatment end we have to train more people, train more psychologists, train more psychiatric social workers, train more psychiatrists, and have them work in communities rather than in the hospital, so that they can train people at source and prevent the deterioration of the mental health situation,” Hutchinson said.
Does Hutchinson feel there is any hope of improvement, a new hospital for example?
“Well I think we always have to live in hope,” he said. “I think there is a new generation of mental health professionals, we are currently training some psychologists at UWI’s Faculty of Medical Sciences, I think there is an increase in the number of psychiatrists practising?what we need now is institutional support to ensure that that practice can reach the communities where it’s most needed.”
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I knew they would be from Trinidad:

Nobody had to tell me that the monsters who attacked these people would have come from the Big Island. Why am I not surprised. For people who were given so much opportunity to be model citizens, they continue to come to Tobago and destroy the peace and tranquility that we once enjoyed. God blessed us with beautiful beaches and beautiful people, but we are saddled by a big sister who brings nothing but shame and scandal to the family. I wish they would keep their progress, their high rise apartments, their big roads and fast cars and also keep their distance and leave us alone. All over the world Tobago was always known as a paradise, now, look where we are on a global scale. It's not enough that they come trampling through our island, they have brought us to our knees in shame and disgust.

WHY RELEASE THEM?

If the police knew so much about this man and his accomplices and they held them in connection with the killing weeks ago in Barataria, why let them go and now telling us all this nonsense, when they had the men in custody. But I guess Mr. Lewis did no warrant a national manhunt because he was not a tourist. Now, the spoil child has branched out and is ini Tobago shedding more blood. Should we not be holding the police service accountable for the spread of mayhem in these two islands? They knew the man went to Tobago, you would think they would have put a tail on him. Come on now, this is too damn ridiculous. Let's put a halt to the expansion of the waterfront, slow down on the facelift of Port of Spain and let us concentrate on the quality of life. Because we are gaining the world but losing our souls. Let us spend money on policemen, on hospitals, on ambulances, on police cars, on good roads, on water, on lights. Oh Gosh, we are heading down a slippery slope of no return. Somebody wake up. Where are our politicians? Fighting among themselves and opening more offices, wasteing money and talking about ethnic cleansing when in truth and in fact, we are being washed in the blood of our brothers and sisters. That is the cleansing that is taking place in our country and nobody cares. My heart is crying out for justice, for decency, for police protection. Cancel Carnival 2010 and concentrate on getting speedy trials for criminals, no bail for kidnappers. It's worse than Somalia in Trinidad right now. Lord put a hand!!!

Why all the Fuss and Bother?
we have tall (empty) buildings, a palace and a tsunami stadium.
All is right with T&T.

I have asked the question numerous times as to why the police wont release details including the name and photograph of suspects. I was told it was due to some law on the books. I wish the media would look into this matter and raise objections as this law hinders good policing. The media can be enlisted, similar as it is in developed countries, to assist in educating the public about criminals in their midst and in bringing them to justice. i would love to see a top ten wanted list of criminals in the media weekly and with a reward system in place as well. Let these criminals know that their pictures and information are all over the newspapers and tv and that there is a reward out there for their capture. They would find themselves on the run from even their own friends and associates. Don S. NY

The mutilation of these innocent tourists could have been avoided in the corrupt, lazy, inept, incompetent nincompoops that pass for Policemen had done their jobs. This should have been Martin Joseph's Aunt and Uncle from Grenada or Manning's Cousins from St Vincent, then and only then would someone be held accountable. How long will we continue to disregard the core human principles of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness? We continue to live a life of blissful ignorance and blind apathy, content to feed off the crumbs that fall off Manning's table, and pretend that all is well in the Fools Paradise that is Trinidad and Tobago.

Why alyuh Doh MOVE to Gay ana under King Fagdeo?(ah hear it have plenty land there) and these ppl were NOT "tourist" they have lived in Tobago for the last 7 yrs!

Submitted by Zide Hosein on 7 August 2009 - 1:09pm.

The mutilation of these innocent tourists could have been avoided in the corrupt, lazy, inept, incompetent nincompoops that pass for Policemen had done their jobs. This should have been Martin Joseph's Aunt and Uncle from Grenada or Manning's Cousins from St Vincent, then and only then would someone be held accountable. How long will we continue to disregard the core human principles of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness? We continue to live a life of blissful ignorance and blind apathy, content to feed off the crumbs that fall off Manning's table, and pretend that all is well in the Fools Paradise that is Trinidad and Tobago.