Former director of intelligence at the Strategic Services Agency (SSA) Carlton Dennie has backpedalled on accusing Prime Minister Dr Keith Rowley of directly instructing him to fire all East Indians from the agency back in 2015.
“First, I would like to set the record straight about what I did not say. I did not say that the PNM told me to fire the East Indians. I did not say that the Minister of National Security (Dillon) told me to fire the east Indians.
“So for the PM to go harping on these issues to create spins and redirect and refocus of the main issues just shows the games that politics play to offset the minds of people in the public,” Dennie said as he changed his tune regarding the SSA ethnic cleansing allegations at a press conference at the Chancellor Hotel, St Ann’s, Thursday, saying he wanted to clear the air on what he did not say.
His comments came three days after Dennie mounted a United National Congress (UNC) platform alleging that when the Rowley-led administration came into power in 2015, he was asked to fire all East Indians from the SSA.
On Monday night at the Debe High School, Dennie told UNC supporters he was invited to join the security intelligence agency in 1997 because of his vast knowledge in electronic and communication technology.
“I was invited to join the security intelligence agency in 1997 because of my vast knowledge in electronic and communication technology. I joined the SSA and served this country in the capacity of director of intelligence.
“Oropouche East, after this Rowley PNM fired the legitimate director of the SSA in 2015 and replaced him with the illegal interim director, I am the person that they asked to fire all the East Indians in the SSA and I told them no I am not doing that,” he told the gathering.
“This made the daily newspapers. I reminded Keith Rowley and the then minister of national security Dillon that in this country every creed and race will find an equal place. I told them no, I am not firing East Indians.”
The allegations, however, infuriated Rowley, who, on Tuesday, shot back saying Dennie had made an “unvarnished lie” and blamed the UNC of trying to create racial discord in the country.
At yesterday’s press conference, Dennie gave a different story.
As SSA director of intelligence, Dennie said he served under four heads of the National Security Council, noting he would have attended sessions to represent the agency.
He alleged it was Matthew Andrews, the “former illegal interim director of the SSA” who “asked me to assist him in firing the East Indians from the SSA.”
While Dennie did not call Andrews’ name on the platform, he said he told Andrews “to go and tell them that I am not doing that.”
When reminded of his quote at the UNC meeting, Dennie advised reporters to “read the flow, English Language is the wonderful language for politics. I told him (Andrews) to tell them.”
He said the use of the word “them” could have a double meaning and referred to individuals who instructed Andrews.
“If the PM takes that to mean him, then so be it,” he said.
Dennie said if the media questions Andrews as to who gave those instructions, proof would be supplied.
“I have placed my character in the hands of a man whom I believe by now would have reviewed his actions and is now willing to speak the truth,” he said.
Dennie called out the names of 14 Indians who were fired, forced out and constructively dismissed from the SSA when Rowley assumed office, adding he has nothing to hide.
Asked if some of these workers’ contracts may have come to an end and just not renewed, Dennie said based on what he was told they fired the East Indians, which he concluded was “spiteful.”
Having served the SSA for 18 years, Dennie said the agency usually renews contracts. However, he said he and several others were terminated based on loss of trust and confidence by former national security minister Edmund Dillon.
Questioned why he was now bringing the issue up, Dennie said his ambition was to serve in the Parliament.
“I want to go into the Parliament of T&T. I want to stand up for these people who were fired wrongfully.”
When someone is dismissed wrongfully, Dennie said, it jeopardises people’s careers and he was a victim of such.
Asked about statements by Rowley that he had a record of poor behaviour and insubordination at the agency, Dennie said he could not remember if he was issued warning letters while at the SSA.
“If I was issued a warning letter it would have come from a particular director who I had reported to the PS,” he said.
Dennie said he also did not speak to UNC leader Kamla Persad-Bissessar before he spoke on the platform.
Asked if he was willing to apologise to Rowley for calling his name on the UNC platform, Dennie said he was willing to apologise to anyone who felt offended by what he said. However, he said the truth offends.