Govt mulls policy to waive costs owed to State

Published: 29 Sep 2009

Half of the historic $1.1million awarded to the State in 1997 for payment by then Opposition Leader Patrick Manning—now Prime Minister—has been paid, according to figures from Attorney General John Jeremie yesterday. And the PNM Government will be adopting policy and may consider proposals by former UNC attorney general Ramesh Maharaj to waive costs awarded to the State in certain issues, Jeremie said. However, Jeremie said the matter was not pressing and he could not give a timeframe for such policy finalisation.

The $1.1m costs awarded to the state in April 1997, stemmed from court action when Manning—then Opposition leader—sought the court’s intervention for an interpretation of the Crossing of the Floor Act. This followed a decision by former PNM MPs Rupert Griffith and Vincent Lasse to join the UNC Government. Jeremie, in the Senate yesterday, said the original costs awarded to the state totalled $1,153,811 with a statutory interest rate of six per cent from April 1997. Jeremie added, “A sum of $555,000 was paid on account of the award on December 27, 2002. “In 1997 there was no other matter in which a sum of money even remotely similar to this has been either awarded to or collected by the state as costs. No equivalent sum has ever been received by the state as costs in any action ever.”

Jeremie said the average quantum of costs awarded to the state in any one matter which has gone to trial is normally in the vicinity of $12,000 to $15,000. “Very often it is presumed that the costs of recovery may outweigh the costs awarded,” Jeremie said, adding that matters such as the $1.1m costs awarded in Manning’s action, were extremely rare and considered an aberration, Jeremie said, “At present the State has no official policy position with respect to the recovery of costs owed to it. Further, the state does not have a stated official position to treat with the varying circumstances in each case in which costs are awarded.”

Asked by the Opposition whether Government would formulate a policy which would write off Manning’s debt, Jeremie said the State would never formulate policy to favour the Prime Minister or directed at any person in particular. Jeremie said policy may be adopted to treat with the general issue of costs and that may include the Prime Minister as well as other persons. He said Government may consider some of the policy proposals which his predecessor Maharaj had drafted in 2000 regarding collection of costs awarded to the state. Jeremie said since the court award involving Manning was in 1997, Maharaj’s policy proposals of 2000, would have included Manning. He said other matters in which outstanding costs were owed to the State, include matters involving Opposition Leader Basdeo Panday, former UNC financiers Steve Ferguson and Ish Galbaransingh and UNC MP Chandresh Sharma and one Balram Singh.

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Cost waiving proposed for:

• Matters where orders awarding such costs are over five years.
• Humanitarian grounds;
• Interpretation of constitutional provisions/appointments, matters of public/national interest.
• Litigants such as condemned prisoners, suspended/dismissed public servants & other “men of straw”.
• Costs however will be pursued against litigants bringing tort actions disguised as constitutional motions.

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Hmmm...all this sounds to me

Hmmm...all this sounds to me like preparation for the Muslimeen to not have to pay the debt they now owe the State...it is providing grounds for the PM to fulfil his alleged promises to the imam.

Roger

I think you should shut the

I think you should shut the hell up with your lies and distortions.

I don't understand the Hon.

I don't understand the Hon. AG's comment that "very often it is presumed that the costs of recovery may outweigh the costs awarded."

If they sell the debts to private bailiffs, normally at some discounted price (e.g. 80% of the awarded costs), then the government will still make some money, the burden of recovery gets placed on the private organisations and, most importantly, the law-breaking citizenry will not be left with the feeling that they could get away with not paying financial penalties because our government would not chase them for it - especially if it's under $15,000.

If you don't chase after the penalties, and all the criminals will end up with is a few days' embarrassment in a court, why bother with tackling crime in the first place? This policy would undermine the anti-crime policy and make our justice system look pointless.

Given that some of our leaders still shamefully owe court awards, such a policy also smacks of being one rule for John Public and another for politicians.

Interesting. Isn't this the

Interesting. Isn't this the same Jeremie who was refusing to make funds available to the former embattled Chief Justice to defend himself and his Office when the AG and his owner were hounding him out of office when he refused their Don Coreliano's offer? Is he one of those owing monies to the State, even after being cleared?

When the candle costs more than the funeral why does the State continue to launch Appeals well aware of the likely verdicts as in the case of the SDMS radio licence or discrimination in Public Service appointments? Is it because the costs are borne by the taxpayer and not by whimsical and capricious politicians motivated by their personal agenda? And why is UDECOTT allowed to waste taxpayer money to "thwart" and abort the work of the Uff Commission of Enquiry which has already cost millions? Are the UDECOTT Barons sacred cows or is the Treasury to be treated like a cash cow to be milked dry?

Prince, 'Who let the dogs

Prince, 'Who let the dogs out?' 'The chickens have come home to roost.' All this roundabout 'lawyer talk' about 'tort disguised as etc etc' is probably just to simply say 'kill this matter'.

In the meantime, Honourable AG, the case baglog in all courts is overwhelming, many Magistrates' courts are firetraps and from the previous century (eg. Siparia), not to mention health and safety time bombs with TB rampant among prisoners (remember how a San Fernando Magistrate had to run for cover from a prisoner's 'load'?), Prison reform and prisoners' accomodation and transport in a mess; the Judiciary seems to have been checkmated. Who next on the list of debt forgiveness list, Sir? What is priority, Sir? But, don't mind me, I'm just an ordinary layman.
ajfyzabadbutlertown

Of all the self-interested

Of all the self-interested actions that this Government can take.

Once again, your tax dollars and the Government's time is being pre-occupied with initiatives that will serve to provide little or no benefit to you the taxpayer.

How much more are you prepared to take?

UNINSPIRED

The Judiciary has been

The Judiciary has been calmouring for resources to manage their business;why waive monies owed to the State, is that because of who owes the State.
Are we to repeat the excesses of Messrs Saith,Bruce and others in the merger of NCB,Workers and Trinidad Cooperatives.
Why is the State not learning from our history, or do they prefer to overtax the poor and middle class to fund its wanton spending.

Monies owed to the state...

Monies owed to the state... Monies owed to the state...

(Light bulb switches on)

Does this mean, if I do not pay my increased property tax (monies owed to the state), it will be waivered or 'forgiven'?

Cost waiving proposed for:

• Matters where orders awarding such costs are over five years.
• Humanitarian grounds;
• Interpretation of constitutional provisions/appointments, matters of public/national interest.
• Litigants such as condemned prisoners, suspended/dismissed public servants & other “men of straw”.

I think my non-payment meets all the above criteria with the excpetion of being a condemned prisoner and I am neither a suspended or dismissed publice servant (not even a retired one) BUT... I am a woman of straw! Lots of straw hats! (and don't even ask about the straws for the cocktails!) (^$$^)

La Diva

You could get debt

You could get debt forgiveness if it would cost more to collect the debt than the actual value of the debt, but an exception could be made if you have the right card or if you hold a winning scratch back card. However mastercard and visa not accepted. Only cash which cannot be easily traced. And some may even have a full pack of 52, but you still have to have the trump card for that particular game. As the lawyers would say, use belt and braces. Makes sense if you're to slacken your belt these days to make sure your pants don't fall down. At least in your case you can use one of your many straw hats in an emergency.

 
 

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