Tuesday February 9th, 2010
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Udecott kept plans secret...
Attorney: Uff lawyers did not request stay
Published: 7 Oct 2009
One of the lawyers involved in the Uff Commission of Enquiry into the State-owned Urban Development Corporation of T&T Limited (Udecott) said yesterday Udecott had not indicated it would file an application in the High Court to rescind decisions halting the inquiry from producing its findings. He added, “Well, the position, as stated in the (Udecott’s) press release, is that the lawyers for Udecott are going to be engaging in discussions with the lawyers for the commissioners with a view, first, to see if they can agree on adjustments to the consent order. “And if they can agree, then yes, the intention is to go back to court and ask the court to adjust its order of last Friday in accordance with whatever can be arrived.”
In a telephone interview, the attorney, who requested anonymity, responded to questions about a statement from Udecott that its legal team planned to re-examine the consent order between the legal teams for the commissioners and Udecott. The order stated in part: “There will be no reinstatement or resumption of the inquiry by way of further hearings or the reception of evidence, and/or preparation or publication or dissemination of any report(s), until the date fixed herein for the hearing of the substantive application.” The lawyer said he had not had contact with Udecott’s legal team to discuss changes to the order. “I do not know (when they would meet with us). I do not have a clue to indicate what their respective availability are,” he said.
He also denied statements from Udecott director Anthony Cherry that the attorneys representing the commissioners were the ones who sought the stay into the proceedings of the inquiry. Cherry said during a Udecott news conference on Monday, that the commission’s English solicitors, Charles Russell and Company, had given the undertaking, in a letter dated October 1, that the commission would not resume, and that the hearing of the judicial review matter be pushed back by four months (February). “The lawyers for the (Prof John) Uff Commission requested the stay? Well, no, that is not accurate but there is the order that was a consent order. It means that both parties have agreed to the order but it is not the truth to say that the Uff lawyers requested the stay,” he said.
It would appear that the
It would appear that the UDeCOTT's team has been less than transparent in their intentions, and the steps they may be taking in these proceedings. This has already started to cause some serious concerns with the Prof. Uff's people.
If this Enquiry is to be rescued, then honesty should be a top priority.
The UDeCOTT team apparently planned to re-examine the consent order between both sides (UDeCOTT and Uff Comm.) contrary to what the Order stated that is "There will be no reinstatement or resumption of the inquiry by way of further hearings or the reception of evidence .... until the date fixed herein for the hearig of the substantive application." (I guess this would be the Februay 2010). But from the goings-on with Harts people, I would assume that UDeCOTT's team are not bothered about honest communication with the Uff's team nor about integrity, or ethics. This is not difficult to accept as we have already seen them in action over the past months - lacking in integrity.
To make matters more confusing is the statement coming from Mr. Cherry, Director at UDeCOTT that it was in fact the Uff's team that was attempting to make this change, which is news to the "anonymity" lawyer from the Uff's side.
When there are games being played, at this level, and honesty is called into question, it creates confusion and utter chaos.
I would guess that the UDeCOTT's team is getting a bit worried because the people, experts, and even some from the "PNM Administration" have been openly critical about the stance they are taking, and the shenanigans may backfire on Mr. Hart and his team. Maybe, they are indulging in their dumb games of laying blame and hoping beyond hope that it may stick and they could get lucky, or get the public to beieve they are the 'innocent' ones.
If they continue like this they may ultimately be placing a bomb under their own seats.
Who do we really believe? What do we believe?
It has now become a guessing game of 'musical chairs'.
Lets see who will be sitting in the 'hot seat' next.
The innocent citizens of this country are looking on helplessly.
Do you think that our Prime Minister can exit his $245M Estate of Splendour and speak to his people, and tell them the truth. Is that asking too much? Or does he think that we are disposable asets, and of no consequence?
And the games continue ....
Gardenia
We are all disposable assets
We are all disposable assets in the eyes of our P.M. One might even describe us as collateral damage.
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Gardenia, your excellent
Gardenia, your excellent analysis made it easy for us this morning. I can sum up what the Guardian reported in one word: CONFUSION.
Either neither party knows what they're doing or they are in it together. Where do we go from here? Your guess is as good as mine. I have asked before whether there is not some other less complicated and less costly legal avenue to proceed in this matter. Let's hear from our brilliant and imaginative legal brains out there.
What I find also ridiculous
What I find also ridiculous is this fixation on whether or not UDeCoTT asked for the stay. Heck, man, it doesn't matter who asked for it - the fact is, by their own words, they agreed with it!
Also, how boldfaced does a director of a wholly-owned state enterprise have to be to say to the press that if a directive comes from the Corporation Sole, your main employer and shareholder, to discontinue the court challenge, that they would discuss it with their legal counsel first?!?!
Don't bother to wait, nuh, Dorothy - the world's gone mad!
...lawyers.lawyers and more
...lawyers.lawyers and more lawyers...all briefing and debriefing each other...and telling lies and spreading confusion....this one has JJ's fingerprints all over it....they are all C students you know since all the A's do medicine and the B's engineering.....at a party once, someone spiked the punch with Viagra and all the lawyers in attendance suddenly grew taller by an average of six inches....
Gardenia, you keep on your
Gardenia, you keep on your eloquent way of speaking and writing. Obviously you are a very learned person and you are asking things like one would ask in Parliament. So you went to one line inputs today, are you taking Metal seriously?, Dont worry with these guys, This is how TTOL is, loadsa people like metal on it trying to keep you down...you continue in your beautiful way of writing sim to "edmungall" he has large inputs too and me "Des" sometimes.Look at your fans out there. Blogging has really limited rules, its your show once you are decent and legal in your comments and you dont run out of space.. I see your point above. TT is all in confusion now on this as the lawyers said they did not ask for a stay of proceedings.
Eddy, is that better? (don't
Eddy, is that better?
(don't ask)
JUST FIRE
JUST FIRE -
Just fire the damn people, is we working for them or them working for we, It look like them working against we. THEY MUST GO, talk done.
Fairplay right, if the PM
Fairplay right, if the PM has something working for him, then he should fire, terminate pink slips all of them, then: the amount of money he pays for us in the COEs and in courts, then go to courts, it takes 5 years or more if they sue, but put aside that expected damages TT$ in a high earning account controlled by the treasury, you gaining interest, and pay them off in a deal before the case comes to court, Some big corporations work that way, they get done what they have to do but put aside xxMM$ in high income accts to do a deal later on and get them to sign no disclosure of the deals to the public, boom boom, we kill two birds with one green guava.
Fairplay the people say they
Fairplay the people say they not going anywhere and the PM eh look like he going to fire them any time soon, so is we to ketch and remember some people like it so.
THEY COULD SAY
THEY COULD SAY -
They could say what they want. The voice of the people is the voice of GOD; this does not only apply at election time. Every single poll has indicated an overwhelming feeling that they must go. The consensus is across all demographics. They are being run out of town, so they want to get in from and make like it is a parade.
Fairpay, my friend, what if
Fairpay, my friend, what if I am an atheist?
And the jury is still out ... 'cause when I see all those holding their scriptures in their heart and proclaiming ?????, and a 'sword' in the next .. I am confused ... undecided.
Would my voice be heard? Where would I be slotted in? Or is my place already reserved for me at the back of the line?
These questions are essential when we look at this case.
Someone asked only a few day ago 'is money the new God'? Think about it. If we get the answer to this, perhaps we may be able to resolve this BIG ONE ....
Gardenia, I never put you
Gardenia, I never put you down as an atheist; with your worship of flowers, I'd have more profiled you as an animist.
Fairplay, you sent me to the
Fairplay, you sent me to the Ref. Library.
Learned a new word today. ANIMIST. Yes, you could say that. If I look in the mirror I think I could see that reflection looking back at me. Keep smiling my friend.
Thanks.
Gardenia, please don't blame
Gardenia, please don't blame Fairplay for sending you to the Ref Library. Mea Culpa, mea culpa. Since morning I've been telling myself that that pot of coffee of which we were invited to partake thereof must contain some sort of psychotropic substance. And it wasn't puncheon I was thinking about.
The Prince.
Saucy and Cheeky too:- No
Saucy and Cheeky too:-
No one took me up on my offer, so I drank the entire pot, stuff included. Enjoyed myself.
I get the feeling that some of these bloggers are of the opinion that we know each other in real life, and not only on cyber space. I am sure you collected 'pet rocks'.
We must be very good at what we do. Take care. Gardenia
Gardenia, thanks for the
Gardenia, thanks for the confirmation about the imbibed laced coffee. Yes, the first rocks I collected were from your beloved PM's head. Harder than any industrial diamond known to exist; capable of inflicting serious damages if impacted on granite.
"I get the feeling.." sounds like a line fron a song I used to know. Who knows, Trinidad & Tobago is a very small place, doh mind what ego-head telling you, and we might very well be known to each other, if not in a previous life. As a self-confessed animist, you might have concluded that I was a tree or something like that out in cyberland.
You take care now, and don't let those envious dudes put you off your scintillating blogs.
Gardenia, Guard-enia,
Gardenia, Guard-enia, guardian of cyber democracy, or whatever you want to call yourself, you always hitting the nail on the head. The question that bothers me is, why are they trying to block the enquiry? Is there something that they are deathly afraid of unlocking or revealing? They are going to too much lengths to prevent the Uff Enquiry from going its natural course.
On another note, Gardenia, a fella, Astley Merton who I respect, claims that this is a 'corporate' space and objected yesterday to bloggers exchanging pleasantries while dealing with serious issues. Way they think this is, parliamentary channel? Lady, keep pressing your keys, sweeter and sweeter, and attack the issues as you see them. Like some people have 'cocoa in the sun'*?
Look, doh let me get on like a Wajank** now, eh!!
*A local TT saying that people who have fears of being exposed for something they want to hide, keep raising complaints upon complaints.
** Wajank - a badly- behaved, uncouth person.
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Enjoy yourself Amirjairam!
Enjoy yourself Amirjairam!
MY FYZABADBUTLERTOWN friend,
MY FYZABADBUTLERTOWN friend, thanks.
Don't pay no heed to silly people. I had my fill of this indiv. Both The Prince and I received some challenging criticism and questioning from him. I took this as a legitimate one and spent the time to respond intelligently. So did The Prince. Only to find out that this individual was simply occupying their time, questioning for the sake of doing so and respoded sending back the impression that we wasted our time. After my second blog to him I decided to ignore future ones. Soon The Prince will have to make his own decision.
But yesterday's comments got me - Why, if you are opposed to 'personal exchanges' were you spending time, reading other peoples blogs and then looking down at us, with such disrespect and attempting to criticise us by quoting from it. If it was distasteful, then he should be skipping it and moving to the next. But oh no he must enjoy everything. I would say very nosey.
The other two, I checked, it was their first time on the blog. I 'smelled a rat' with them. We must be making it uncomfortable for someone. Can you suspect who? I can't ... but take your pick.
In T&T there is too much aggression and heartache. 'Nice' words, joshing, etc. is good clean fun, aiming not to disrespect anyone. Never crossig the line.
For someone who has stretched her wings a bit, I find it small minded when people have to seek out opportunities to try and inform people that they are educate, with degrees, etc. so they know better than the average person. I have met and worked with some of the brightest and most educated, and I found most to behave just like the average person, without delusions of grandeur.
So when people object as those 3, I say to them 'get a life' and use your energies to volunteer among the less fortunate, and do something productive with your time.
Another time I will explain to you some crucial benefits gained by us sometimes mixing chit-chat exchanges with our commentary.
Take Care.... Gardenia
Well said, Gardenia. I did
Well said, Gardenia. I did try to explain to the critics that in our blogs we do go beyond a strict critique of the topics in the news, and try to relate to one another in our exchanges. I suppose some people have a difficulty relating to others.
In T&T we call people who are not interested in other people's business but still want to mind their business "maco". In one case it bordered on intellectual voyeurism.
THEN GARDENIA
THEN GARDENIA -
The voice of no GOD is the voice of the people.Power to the People. People rule in a democracy.