Tuesday February 9th, 2010
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Panday: CCJ lacks confidence
Published: 9 Oct 2009
Basdeo Panday
Opposition Leader Basdeo Panday says the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ) should be an intermediate court and not the final court of appeal for the people of T&T. Panday said so yesterday in a telephone interview en route from Tanzania, Africa, where he along with Minister in the Ministry of National Security Donna Cox and Deputy House Speaker Pennelope Beckles attended the 55th Commonwealth Parliamentary Conference from September 26 to October 6. Panday was asked to outline his position on the issue in the wake of two recent developments. The first was an announcement by Jamaican Prime Minister Bruce Golding that he was now prepared to rethink the CCJ. The Caribbean Media Corporation (CMC) quoted Golding as saying his JLP Government had reservations about the way in which the court (CCJ) had been established.
“We fought a vigorous battle. I am glad that we did, changes were made, heads of Government were not the persons who appoint the court (judges), that is done by a regional judicial services commission, there is a trust fund that has been established to ensure the court will be funded in perpetuity, some improvements have been done.” And the second development was an announcement published in the Financial Times last month, which quoted President of the British Supreme Court, Lord Nicholas Phillips as saying that the Law Lords spend “a huge amount of time” hearing matters from the Caribbean and other Commonwealth states. He said he “personally would like to see it reduced. He added that “in an ideal world” those countries would establish their own final courts of appeal and discontinue using the Privy Council.
But Panday said the CCJ “lacks the required confidence. We have no confidence in the CCJ and as a consequence it should be used as an intermediate court and not as the final court of appeal for T&T for the time being.” Panday said the fact that “so many cases from T&T are being sent to the Privy Council in London should confirm the need for the Privy Council to remain the country’s highest court of appeal. Only Barbados and Guyana have accepted the CCJ as the final court of appeal. The CCJ is based in T&T. The Patrick Manning-led T&T Government has been critical of the UNC Opposition for failing to honour a commitment to have the CCJ replace the Privy Council as this country’s highest court of appeal.
"We have no confidence in
"We have no confidence in the CCJ and as a consequence it should be used as an intermediate court and not as the final court of appeal" - Basdeo Panday.
What he really means is "We, our wives too, who serious cases before the courts where there is the likelihood of conviction and forfeiture of our freedom have no confidence in the CCJ and as a consequence it should be used as an intermediate court and not as the final court of appeal".
"You do the crime, you do the time!!!!" - Basdeo Panday, 3rd quarter, 1995.
Yuh doh want tuh do de time, DON'T DO THE CRIME.
Marchalis according to the
Marchalis according to the article Panday further stated "we have no confidence in the CCJ and as a consequence it should be used as an intermediate court and not as the final court of appeal for T&T for the time being"
From that statement it would appear that he is suggesting that it be used as an intermediate court in the short-term until confidence in its operations and judgements are achieved.
In my opinion your comment and attack on Mr Panday has no merit and is redundant and boring...move on. Address the real issues here!
PANDAYITIS
PANDAYITIS -
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Distortions are the order of the day for those who suffer from Pandayitis. They would see corruption in Piarco, but none at UDECOTT. They would see crime as a problem under UNC (100) but not under PNM (500). Their views are patently one sided. Emotional attacks are the order of the day. Please bear with them they cannot help themselves they suffer from Pandayitis. Your objectivity is duly noted.
Isn't it strange with
Isn't it strange with everything going on under this government(excessive spending, corruption, property tax etc.)some people are very quiet but as soon as Panday say something they ready to jump all over him.
Ah guess Hart, Manning and all the rest eh doing no crime so they eh go have to do time.
I agree with you
I agree with you 100%..."DON'T DO THE CRIME".All these so called bloggers always defending this man...
"All these so called
"All these so called bloggers always defending this man"
Who's the so-called bloggers? I would think it's the fairplay wannabe...fairplay2 - God help us!
FAIRPLAY2 (TWO) I AGREE WITH
FAIRPLAY2 (TWO) I AGREE WITH YOU -
DON'T DO THE CRIME. But just in case make sure,
1) That your party is in power so they could scuttle any inquiries. O'Hallaran and Prevatt were only convicted after PNM left power some ten years or more after the crime.
2) The Jean Miles inquiry never resulted in any prosecutions. Ironically one of the reasons for the COUP was a $25,000 statue to Jean Miles.
3) Hound your accusers to death a la Jean Miles.
4) Leave the country so you could live a good life in Canada, or Panama.
5) If you lose election and it looks like it would be the end of the party due to the unearthing of corruption. Pray that some group would overthrow the government and scuttle the process.
6) When you get back into power, hire the group that overthrew the government to support you in elections and make promises.
7) When you get back into power, cut off the head of the opposition with the use of the Integrity Commission.
8) Use the Integrity Commission to silence any in your party who raises the issue of corruption.
9) Discredit and disband the Integrity Commission as it might be used against you.
10) After you win elections, discredit and prosecute said group and confiscate all properties.
11) Bring in a White foreigner, set up companies that ensure that he is untouchable. Thief as much as you can, then let the said company use taxpayer’s money to stop the proceedings.
12) If there is a change of government and it looks that you will be prosecuted. Pray that a group will overthrow the government and scuttle the process.
You have to be thorough in your planning, you must have plan A and at least B.
Am not sure what you are
Am not sure what you are trying to say, Marchalis.
Is Panday (for failing to declare a bank account to a proven biased Integrity Commission) any more or less a criminal than Sherman McNicolls who was driving his vehicle without insurance... only discovered, mind you, when he was involved in an accident. What if someone had died?
Is Panday any more or less a criminal than Calder Hart, who shares a family relationship with one of his pet contractors in the UDeCOTT spending spree?
Is Panday any more or less a criminal than the dozens of police officers who shoot citizens? A name Boodoosingh come to mind.
Is Panday any more or less a criminal than a coast-guardsman who shot and killed Shazard Mohammed, or one who ran over a 13 years old girl enjoying a holiday kayaking?
I have not yet started on Michael Annissette , the President, the Prime Minister yet...
The Privy Council, in reversing our courts' decisions on so many occasions has amply demonstrated that our courts lack legal maturity to become a final court of appeal.
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And Jumbie's you might
And Jumbie's you might overtake Gardenia here in your deductions. Good commentary, ole!!
I am surprised at you. It
I am surprised at you. It must end somewhere, at least on earth; that is where the word FINAL is important. But remember DNA has in some cases changed the meaning of the word FINAL.
Have a pleasant day.
It ends at the Privy
It ends at the Privy Council, doesn't it?
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Shitman Jumbie for PM
Shitman Jumbie for PM anyone??? I totally agree with you people like to jump on Panday's case (me included) but dat is because he dotish, and he is the ONLY reason we in this mess with the PNM....so the people only venting at him.....rightfully so!!
Jumbie, I can address your
Jumbie, I can address your post as I am unable to address the previous posters - I have little tolerance for ignorance and sycophancy.
Is Panday (for failing to declare a bank account to a proven biased Integrity Commission) any more or less a criminal than Sherman McNicolls who was driving his vehicle without insurance... only discovered, mind you, when he was involved in an accident. What if someone had died?
There are instances when, in the course of renewing your car insurance, you are issued a provisional note or letter, usually by fax. This provisional note is generally for a day or more, not the regular 6 or 12 month period. This note is as good as the regular certificate and is intended for short term use, such as driving from one point to another until the certificate is issued. My own personal experience with this withstood the scrutiny of a police road block when I was pulled over. According to McNicholls' evidence, his driver was driving with such a provisional note. Unless the driver was caught driving OUTSIDE of the stipulated date, no offense was committed. If it was outside the date, then the law must take its course and effective, swift prosecution sought. In such a case the answer to your question would be no - Wrong is wrong.
Is Panday any more or less a criminal than Calder Hart, who shares a family relationship with one of his pet contractors in the UDeCOTT spending spree?
If Hart's relationship to these contractors runs contrary to the law - as it strongly appears to be the case from the evidence, then the law must take its course and effective, swift prosecution sought. In such a case the answer to your question would be no - Wrong is wrong.
Is Panday any more or less a criminal than the dozens of police officers who shoot citizens? A name Boodoosingh come to mind.
There have been many injudicious killings in the past... as well as the slaughtering of persons known to police as involved in criminal activity. In those cases, every last one of those deserves to die like the dogs they were, I have no sympathy whatsoever. If however the evidence shows that officers acted unjustly, causing the death or injury of innocent persons, then the law must take its course and effective, swift prosecution sought. In such a case the answer to your question would be no - Wrong is wrong.
Is Panday any more or less a criminal than a coast-guardsman who shot and killed Shazard Mohammed, or one who ran over a 13 years old girl enjoying a holiday kayaking?
If from the evidence it is determined that these army personnel broke the law, then the law must take its course and effective, swift prosecution sought. In such a case the answer to your question would be no - Wrong is wrong.
As for Annisette, the PM, Max... we may both find common ground on which to agree here. They are all found wanting and the disenchantment of the citizenry is very real and well deserved.
The Privy Council, in reversing our courts' decisions on so many occasions has amply demonstrated that our courts lack legal maturity to become a final court of appeal.
This is precisely the reason why, until the advent of the CCJ, the Privy Council has NEVER EVER advised us to get our own court. Now that there is one in existence, not T&T's but the REGION, the call of the Privy Council is timely and well understood.
The basic gist of my response is by the evidence. It's not what you know, it's what you can prove. In the case of Basdeo Panday, your substantive position was, is he more criminal than such and such... To whom much is given, much is expected - By virtue of the high position he held at the time of the alleged offenses, as proven by the evidence, which today remains undisputed (otherwise Panday woudn't have resorted to the transparent but effective tactic of tying up the courts while he ages in the hope that an eventual guilty verdict may be eclipsed by sympathy for his age), one could be forgiven for labeling Panday as more criminal than all others who, by the evidence, are guilty of offenses. The only exception being the Prime Minister or the President, if they are found to by guilty of offenses. If we are able to prove these two committed offenses, by all means, PROSECUTE and SENTENCE.
Panday likes to talk about who do the crime do the time, EXCEPT when he's the one being prosecuted for proven offenses.
"All animals are created equal - but some animals are more equal than others" - George Orwell, Animal Farm.
The issue and message in the
The issue and message in the article has still elluded you Marchalis...you're not very smart are you? I would have thought one able to use a word like sychophancy would have been smarter.
Start off yuh post by saying
Start off yuh post by saying "In my opinion........". And try not to think too much eh... yuh could hurt yuhself.
DECEPTION IS AN ARTFORM
DECEPTION IS AN ARTFORM -
STEWPEAS
A useful strategy is playing stupid to be smart. See what yuh want to see and hear what yuh want to hear. You have analysed the situation correctly.
Hold up there Marchy, it was
Hold up there Marchy, it was proven in court that his insurance had been EXPIRED FOR 6 MONTHS!!!! So that one day provision is totally irrelevent in this case, period, end of story!!!
I was replying to the points
I was replying to the points as laid out by Jumbie. And if you had followed what he posted as well as the reply you would see that I dealt basically with a specific point related to that. What seems to easily escape you is where I said in effect was if the driver was caught driving beyond the date of any such issued note then he and McN should be dealt with. As it stands the issue of automatic registration is what is being dealt with. In the face of this, the provision I mentioned applies. What the lawyers need to determine is where any mention of automatic registration is stipulated on any certificate or note. Generally if you cannot produce a valid insurance you liable to face action - The operative word is "VALID". At this point, they are seeking to determine just that.
The story eh finish by a long shot.
And on that point....why so
And on that point....why so many "IF's" in your statements?? Not that its not good but sounds very opinionated. I remember doing a lot of pre-cal math "IF" problems in my school days.
A fairly sizeable paragraph
A fairly sizeable paragraph and you questioning 3 earth-shaking occurrences of the word "if"???? "So many uses"????
I doh have a clue what you talkin' bout.
NEXT!
Marchalis, I will attempt to
Marchalis, I will attempt to address 2 of your post in one, if you don't mind... time and space constraints and all that...
This provisional note is generally for a day or more, not the regular 6 or 12 month period.
Shermie was found driving in February 20, 2009 (day of the accident) without insurance, since said insurance had lapsed on December 21, 2008. This is in the public domain. As is my right, I speculate that if he was not invlved in that accident, and did not have the need to cover his behind (and his Hilux) he would not be driving so quickly to the South to renew his insurance.
Your argument is invalid.
As to the Apparent bias.. well, that was proven. In fact, the IC resigned because of it, if I recall correctly. And Panday remains the only person who is so charged out of a list of over 100 persons who were revealed in Parliament not to have declared their assets. Is that not proof? An official Hansard record can bear me out. By the way, I am not a Panday supporter, Lord knows he get plenty licks on my blog.
In those cases, every last one of those deserves to die like the dogs they were, I have no sympathy whatsoever.
No one deserves to die like a dog as you put it. In fact, if a member of your family is killed injudiciously (nice word!), you might be the first screaming from the rooftops how unfair it is etc etc.
If however the evidence shows that officers acted unjustly, causing the death or injury of innocent persons, then the law must take its course and effective, swift prosecution sought.
Hence the reason I called the name Boodoosingh. This was a Privy Council judgement I read. Boodoosingh was the Penal officer (now promoted) who shot that young man through the mouth. My point is that theory as you quoted does not stand up to what actually exists. My writing does call for some sort of thought process since time and space constraints prevent me from putting out every little point.
If from the evidence it is determined that these army personnel broke the law, then the law must take its course and effective, swift prosecution sought.
As we found out when the Quesnel youth was run over, there is no maritime law in Trinidad that covers these accidents. So while we may wish the law to take effect, what happens when it actually does not exist? Is the act then, any less reprehensible?
The basic gist of my response is by the evidence. It's not what you know, it's what you can prove.
It okay to adopt a moral high ground, but my initial comment has shown that there is more than enough evidence out in public to validate my position... even if the cases are still before the courts or have yet to be completed. Commonsense examination of the evidence is enough.
By the way, I note that the last 3 words of yours on every point I made, you agreed with me.
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I hear you, all fair points,
I hear you, all fair points, except I maintain that ANYONE KNOWN TO BE INVOLVED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY DESERVES TO DIE LIKE THE DOGS THEY ARE. The problem is that you find my tone too strong. It may have something to do with the fact that crime the way it has grown demands a harder tone. Sorry if you believe otherwise. And quite frankly, if one of my family members involved in crime the same would apply. No qualms about them dying by the sword if that is how they lived. If you act like trash, expect to be treated like trash. I won't be one of those fools coming on TV talking about "he was ah nice boy, in de choir and ting!!". My position is different to yours.
I maintain also, on the issue of Proven vs Apparent bias, if there was Proven bias, the Privy Council would have struck down Panday's case completely instead of ordering a re-trial. That much is clear and indisputable, hence the reason no one here is able to challenge it.
And once again I have to
And once again I have to point out that not all those shot, beaten or killed are guilty. A great many are so treated because of abusive and duncey police officers.
Therefore, in the following scenario, you tune and tone will surely change.
If one of your relatives, whom you KNOW to be innocent, to be a well behaved member of society ie no criminal records or reputation, is shot and killed, you would not be singing the same song.
The law is useless if it cannot be applied evenly and without prejudice or malice.
The emotional part of me agree with your sentiment... the intelligent part does not.
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ANYONE KNOWN TO BE INVOLVED
ANYONE KNOWN TO BE INVOLVED IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY DESERVES TO DIE LIKE THE DOGS THEY ARE.
You know... it in bold type... what is needed seems to be broadway style flashing marquee lights. It's not that hard to comprehend. To debunk your scenario: how could a person, one of my relatives no less, whom I "KNOW to be innocent, to be a well behaved member of society ie no criminal records or reputation" be known to be involved in criminal activity? I didn't say suspected, I said KNOWN TO BE... that's a HUGE difference. Known means proven, but for all intents and purposes cannot yet be brought to justice. Do you understand now? And even if you finally do get it and STILL find that they shouldn't "die like the dogs they are", then we can both agree to disagree.
I will be the first to take your point when you say "not all those shot, beaten or killed are guilty. A great many are so treated because of abusive and duncey police officers.". That is a shameful FACT than no police commissioner and Minister of National Security, past, present AND future should ever dispute.
Jumbie... Proven Biased????
Jumbie... Proven Biased???? Which judgement you referring to? Not here. What you need to say is APPARENT Bias. That is the judgement that was handed down relating to the Integrity commission. Check your English dictionary. If you can show where Proven means the same thing as Apparent, I will recant this post.
If there was Proven bias, as you seem to wish, your precious Privy Council would have struck down Panday's case completely instead of ordering a re-trial.
You have a decent set of points laid out. Don't screw it up and expose your colours by substituting the actual judgement with your personal opinion. That is being disingenuous. When you on a (sensible) role, the last thing you want is to come across like Fairplay and his crew of one dimensional non-thinkers.
PNM PROPAGANDA 101
PNM PROPAGANDA 101 -
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This is the script,
1) If we cut off the head of the opposition we can rule indefinitely, target Panday.
2) Say Panday thief this will translate into PNM has not nor will ever thief.
3) Say Panday gave up on crime (100), it will translate into PNM is good on crime (500).
4) Say UNC will not support Crime Bills; it will translate into PNM is not responsible.
5) Say murders are collateral damage, translation it is the gangs fault.
6) Say we are not in recession, it is a blip, other lies, it will translate we could afford CHOGM and Mega Projects.
7) Say the press is not fair to PNM; it will translate anything said about PNM is untrue.
These are some of the obvious examples. The strength of PNM is its well oiled propaganda machinery. They probably even have hired bloggers to derail the blogging efforts.
I am no fan of Panday, but
I am no fan of Panday, but he has a valuable point and his compromise suggestion is a reasonable suggestion as an interim and transitional measure, in the light of the growing number of successful appeals upheld by the Privy Council. I am sure that the locl courts in some of their judgements could have erred in points of law and not through bias. On many occasions it is badmindedness on thr part of Government to pursue forlorn appeals at the Privy Council at tremendous costs to the taxpayer. The PC sits far away and insulated from the local environment, so all they can consider are facts without baggage.
Panday has been charged with certain offences, is before the courts and based on the evidence appropriate judgements will be handed down. It is time to end this fixation with Panday and to seek out and pursue the current individuals who appear to be indulging in nepotism, corruption and bobol. Panday is not in charge of the current regime of mismanagement and bobol. The only power he has been exercising is the power of his stubborness and selfishness that makes it possible for what is happening in the country today. All we ask for is equal treatment before the law for all. No cherry picking for political convenience.
Regardless of his
Regardless of his contribution to Trinidad, I think it is time for Panday to give someone else a chance at being leader of the party.
I agree with you 100%.
I agree with you 100%.
Read between the lines...
Read between the lines... Privy Council appeals consist, overwhelmingly, of Capital cases, although there are submissions such as Panday's current docket.
With particular reference to the capital cases, the Privy Council has, in no uncertain terms, declared that the period in which a capital sentence can be administered is 5 years. Often times, and perhaps due to the large number of appeal submissions, that cases are not heard before the Law Lords until said 5 year term has elapsed.
To circumvent the unintentional commuting of capital sentences to terms of incarceration, the CCJ was born. For Mr. Panday or any other political afficionado to suggest that the CCJ be an intermediate as opposed to the final court of appeal smacks of impropriety.
The end result will be a longer, more frustrated legal process and by extension more cases being commuted. If the issue is the track record of the court...guess what? Until such time as the court begins to hear cases, it has NO track record upon which to be judged, as did the Privy Council when it transitioned from being the British Monarch's advisory board to being a legal institution.
The Caribbean is plagued with Neo-colonialism and we will be better off if we start to acknowledge this deficiency and FIX IT. The CCJ is duly ratified and formulated to complete the Independance of the Caribbean countries from the Crown. Just my thoughts...
Inspired...Selah!
If the Courts here are
If the Courts here are taking more than five years to complete murder cases, we need to find out why. From what the Chief Justice had to say recently, it would appear that the Judiciary is lacking in essential funding and this in no doubt causes the wheels of justice to move ever so slowly. Justice delayed is justice denied. We know how we can avoid more Pratts and Morgans.
I think that Mr Panday is
I think that Mr Panday is thinking way ahead of us. Maybe Mr Manning and his minions would stand a better chance of being convicted for their many crimes at the Privy Council, than at the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ). Mr Manning is already using money from the treasury to butter-up the other Caribbean islands and is ensuring that there are no East Indian judges on the CCJ panel because he considers them to be his enemy.
Privy Council vs Caribbean
Privy Council vs Caribbean Court of Justice:
I will attempt to the best of my ability to critique the content of this article and leave personalities out of it. This is a situation whereby I believe that we must exercise absolute unbiased assessment of the facts involved.
The arguement put forward by Mr. Panday in this interview is a very intelligent one. As much as we would like to believe that we have progressed to the point whereby we can handle our own affairs in the Caribbean, we still have some room to grow and mature, and make the necessary changes to this system, that is deemed essential, making it stronger and as much fool-proof as is possible.
We should also note that Jamaica's P.M. Golding is having second though about the way in which the CCJ had been established. This information should be a wake-up call.
Based on the fact that both T&T and Jamaica are questioning their confidence in the CCJ, we should not cut our ties with the Privy Council at this point in time, until and unless we are certain that we have finally put our house in perfect order. Therefore, we have to get going and work on making whatever changes would be necessary. We cannot simply allow it to sit dormant and hope the 'tooth fairy' will fix it.
I agree with Mr. Panday that we should use the CCJ "as an intermediate court and not as the final court of appeal for T&T for the time being." This is wise thinking.
When we look at the number of cases from T&T going before the Privy Council, we have to acknowledge the fact that we must continue going this route for the time being. Many of our cases had to go to the Privy Council before justice could be served.
If and when the CCJ has matured to the point whereby we have full confidence in it's operation, then and only then should we cut our ties with the Privy Council. Once we do that, there will be no turning back.
Our Prime Minister, and the Prime Minister of Barbados can object and get angry, but at the end of the day the rights of the citizens from these countries, seeking justice, should take precedent over their likes and dislikes and the wishes of both PMs.
Recently, we read where Lord Nicholas Phillips who will become the first President of the Supreme Court in the U.K. expressed his concerns that the U.K. was 'spending a "disproportionate" amount of time on cases from former colonies, mostly in the Caribbean.' He went further to state that "in an ideal world" Commonwealth countries would stop using the Privy Council, and set up their own final courts of appeal.
So, we now have to work on getting our CCJ up to scratch and making certain that everything is in order to ready ourselves to move away from the Privy Council, and toward the CCJ, as we must in the not too distant future.
PS: The commentary presented by "The Prince" was an intelligent and unbiased one indeed. Good job, Sir.
Gardenia
As are all commentaries that
As are all commentaries that suck up to your thieving crooked leader...
AS ALL COMMENTARIES
AS ALL COMMENTARIES -
That attempt to deflect away from the massive thieving going on estimated seven billion and counting by focusing on a hundreds of millions by UNC. Penny wise pound foolish.UNC was fired for corruption if we keep talking about it we cannot focus on the billions the in power PNM is stealing. This is why PNM has been in power for so long, deception and propaganda. PNM is by far the most corrupt Government T&T has ever had from O'Hallaran and Prevatt to Hart and Udecott no one has come close.
Anyone saying different is in a state of denial or just want to hold on to the "TRESURARY".
Again, that is your personal
Again, that is your personal opinion. If the UNC (whose leader and his wife currently before the courts for several charges of corruption) agreed with you that the PNM is the most corrupt party ever, then they would have prosecuted them for corruption when they came into power. If the NAR believed the same thing they would have prosecuted as well. The PNM is indeed in power for a long time, but YOU and all your fellow non-thinkers have them there, each time you keep making excuses for Panday. If you wish to move the PNM, the formula is simple, and it is known... REMOVE the hinderance to opposition unity - Basdeo Panday. If you wish Panday to remain in place, then shut your damn mouth about PNM in power too long. YOU ALL LIKE IT SO.
Dismissed.
NAR DID
NAR DID -
They had a 33-3 majority. Under whose watch do you think O'Hallaron and Prevatt was prosecuted for corruption you must be conveniently leaving out part of history. There was a Coup people get killed. The corruption was being debated in the house when the Jamat stormed in. A hit was put out on Richardson. They nearly kill Robinson. Robinson and Richardson were ex-PNM and had all the inside information about the corruption. Was it not for his militant lieutenants and his usefulness to PNM in the last election, ABU BAKR done dead already? Most of the Gang Leaders who attended the Community Leaders Meeting are now dead. Dead men tell no tales.
If the UNC ... agreed with
If the UNC ... agreed with you that the PNM is the most corrupt party ever, then they would have prosecuted them for corruption when they came into power. If the NAR believed the same thing they would have prosecuted as well.
Maybe, since both these regimes came in when the PNM corruption bankrupted the country, they were both trying their utmost to revive the economy and provide for the people as good leaders are wont to do.
Maybe the prosecution was not intended to be persecution and just was put on the back burner to get more important stuff done.
Seems to me that other Governments take the hard line approach, put the country back on an even keel and the PNM...
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With all respect,
With all respect, rubbish.
Panday tried that same worthless excuse. The reason they did not prosecute is the same reason doctors don't criticise each other. As acrimonious as the PNM and UNC act in public, it is a known fact that they are quite the opposite inside the parliament and personally as well... brothers in arms, so to speak. Apparently the PNM broke that golden rule, much to Panday's surprise... hence the dotish excuse about "We sought to deal with the country's important business instead!". GARBAGE!!! That hogwash was actually the best excuse this Oxford-trained man could come up with!!! His minions hear dat and swallow it too, hook, line and sinker. ANY ALLEGED CROOKED POLITICIAN IS THE COUNTRY'S BUSINESS, PNM, UNC, NAR, COP. THEY MUST ALL BE DEALT WITH.
It is OUR tax money and we are fed up of PNM wasting people's money, and the UNC stealing it. ALL CORRUPT POLITICIANS NEED JAIL.
Who eh like that is they blasted business. I have little patience with dotishness.
MARCHALAIS: - REQUEST TO
MARCHALAIS: - REQUEST TO PLEASE REFRAIN FROM COMENTING ON MY BLOGS.
Mister, may I as a civilised human being, request that henceforth you refrain from responding to my commentaries. It is a request only.
You may wish to ignore me, and that is your right. If you insist in your indulgence of putting forward questionable responses, that are of no value, I will have no choice but to IGNORE YOU COMPLETELY.
I know you have informed me that you are a cross between an indian and african, and are of superior intelligence, while we are ignorant and inferior to you. And that you are a PNM for life. Relish in that thought.
You make an 'educated' decision. You do know how to do that, don't you?
PS: The youths in some of our crime-ridden areas could do with a volunteer soccer coach. Do you think that you can spare a few valuable hours a week to contribute something of value to your community? Think about it.
Patriot
I make no promises. The
I make no promises.
The option to ignore my commentaries is always open to you. That is your right and you have the freedom to so do. Conversely, while I too have the freedom and right to ignore your comentaries, I make no guarantees that I will not respond to what I perceive as inaccuracies, especially of a malicious nature. I would expect the same towards my own posts. Whether you perceive me as PNM or COP or WD40 is of absolutely no consequence to me, you have the right to be wrong. As a mature person I have to be adult enough to stand up to scrutiny, criticism and correction. If you find that is too much for you, perhaps you could learn ways on how to accept criticism, correction and scrutiny. It's not hard.
Again, you always have the option to ignore me. My replies to you aren't meant for just you at any rate... It's a bit narcissistic for you to assume it fall only in your garden(ia).
Mister your "reply" was
Mister your "reply" was directly associated to my commentary, not anyone else's. Please retrace your steps.
You neither provide "CRITICISM, CORRECTION AND SCERUTINY"
Your response was plain and simply utter disrespect for another.
If according to you I am "narcissistic" then that is my characteristic and none of your business: I will walk on the other side of the street if and when you should approach.
However, you may wish to take up the suggestion I made of giving back to your community by volunteering among the less fortunate youths. It may give you a different view of what real life is all about.
"Beginning today, treat everyone you meet as if they were going to
be dead by midnight. Extend to them all the care, kindness,
and understanding you can muster, and do it with no thought of any
reward. Your life will never be the same again."
..........................................(Og Mandino)
Gods blessings.
"My replies to you aren't
"My replies to you aren't meant for just you at any rate... It's a bit narcissistic for you to assume it fall only in your garden(ia)."
English it is said, is an artform. One can only imagine what comprehension of English is then. Lemmih break it down ABC style for you... "My replies to you aren't meant for just you at any rate..." notwithstanding the fact that I incorporated you at the end.
You want to make your opinions known about others but asking them not to reply to your commentaries??? Go so wid dat Play-Mas-and-Fraid-Powder nonsense. Grow a pair.
Seems we lost track of the
Seems we lost track of the real issues here with this clever bait and switch... my apologies to the serious-minded.