Ben & Jerry's ice-cream co-founder Ben Cohen said the company rose to the US$326 million value at the time Unilever acquired it in 2001, thanks entirely to its innovative business philosophy of maintaining a double bottom line: to support the communities in which it operates and to make money.
During an interview with the Business Guardian at the Hilton Trinidad, St Ann's, on Monday evening, Cohen showed unflinching conviction that Ben & Jerry's became the international brand it is today thanks to the "halo effect" created from the philanthropic way it did business, just as much as the taste of the ice-cream.
Cohen said: "When we first opened, we opened just as one individual home made ice-cream shop, and we didn't have any plans of becoming anything more than that. At the very beginning when we opened up, we said that we don't want to be a typical business. We'd like to be a business that cares more about the local community. We were holding community celebrations and giving away a bunch of ice-cream, but we didn't really develop our philosophy until seven years later, and as the business grew, we began to feel the business is essentially a machine for making money that we wanted to be of as much service to the community as possible.
"What we needed to do was give away as much of our profits as possible. We ended up giving away a very high percentage of our profits, 7.5 per cent of pre-tax profits. You know the normal corporate donation is maybe about one per cent. We were giving away a lot more and we had become a public company."
He said that as "there are just so many overwhelming unmet human needs, for a business to just give away money, isn't enough, and we were wondering was there something else we could do, and we figured out that the thing that we could do more was to integrate social concerns into day-to-day business activities, and so we started doing business with a bank that was based in a decaying urban area whose purpose was to attract deposits from outside the area, to use it to rebuild that area."
Cohen gave other examples of how Ben & Jerry's "started to invest in low-income housing, tax credits," and sourcing its ingredients "fair traded, so that the smaller farmers get paid a higher price."
For a while, Ben & Jerry's was buying Brazil nuts from the rainforest in an effort to help the rainforest in Brazil remain a living rainforest, Cohen said.
"What we found at Ben & Jerry's is that there's a spiritual aspect to business, just as there is to the lives of individuals. When you give, you receive. As you help others, you're helped in return. As your business supports the community, the community supports your business."
"We had no idea that was going to be so successful, that was going to be so profitable, but it was," he said. "The norm is that businesses say that it is not possible for them to help to alleviate social problems. It's not possible for them to integrate social concerns into how they do business, so that they can profit at the same time. We found that that's just not true. We found that it is possible to do that, and we found lots of different ways to integrate 'meeting social needs' into our day-to-day business operations."
Sourcing ingredients and helping
Cohen said it is about "a lot more than just giving away some money. It's about sourcing our ingredients in such a way that we help to address social problems. One example is that our flavour, 'chocolate fudge brownie,' utilises brownies that are made by a non-profit bakery owned by a religious institution in an inner city area whose purpose is to provide job training to formerly unemployable people: ex-drug addicts, or ex-convicts or formerly homeless people, and so, just by buying brownies from that bakery, we're helping to solve that social problem."
He said Ben & Jerry's "innovated a two-part bottom line, so that it measures its benefit to the community, and its impact on the community, positive and negative; and it measures how much money it makes. If we fail at either one of those, we have failed our mandate," he said.
There are approximately 300 Ben & Jerry's ice cream scoop shops around the world, but mainly in the continental United States, he said. Some shops are franchised, but most belong wholly to Unilever, the Anglo-Dutch global consumer goods company that has an operation in T&T.
Asked if there might be a Ben & Jerry's ice-cream scoop shop opening soon in T&T, he said that would be the decision of Unilever which bought out Ben & Jerry's on the stock market. "We were a publicly-held company and Unilever bought all the stock, so when that happened, I got paid a bunch of money," he said.
The British-Dutch conglomerate Unilever bought the American Vermont-based, ice-cream manufacturer Ben & Jerry's in 2001 for US$326 million.
Money and politics
The company has started taking some political stands, too, he said. One stand it has taken is on "getting money out of politics," which is about detaching politics from money, replacing the campaign financing model at the hands of which ordinary voters suffer.
Later in the interview, when asked if he might ever go back into business now that he plays no executive role at Ben & Jerry's, Cohen said he is dedicating himself to this struggle.
"Now, I'm focused on a campaign to get money out of politics. I'm going to focus all my energy on addressing what I think is the root cause of most of the problems in the United States; and, of course, if there are problems in the United States, they would be causing problems in the rest of the world as well."
Another political stand Ben & Jerry's is taking is to get politicians to "shift money out of nuclear weapons and into education," he said. Cohen said one of his major concerns is the militarisation of US society. He said: "The US spends half of its discretionary budget on the military, preparing to kill people. You know, it's absurd. The US spends US$700 billion a year on that, and for about US$50 billion a year, you can feed all the people who are hungry in the world."
"I've been saying it would make the world a lot safer place if people weren't hungry. You can do those things. You can do everything for US$50 billion a year. What percentage is that of our Pentagon budget?" he asked rhetorically.
You can do it
"What we demonstrated was that you can do it. You have two choices when you go into business. You can just run a traditional business that only has a one-part bottom line, that is only there to maximise profits for the owners, or you can do one that has a two-part bottom line that makes a bunch of profits and helps to improve the quality of life of the community. We like the second."
Cohen said the decision to operate with a two-part bottom line was "very controversial" at the start. He said: "It was controversial within our own company, at the board of directors level. We were criticised by the major business schools around the country. They would invite us to come and speak. We would tell them about it, and they would tell us, you know, we were stupid."
Still, he said they remained unfazed and undaunted.
"We just continued to do it and continued to demonstrate that we were very profitable. We spent a lot less money on advertising and public relations. Companies traditionally hire and manage advertising agencies and public relations to essentially make up a nice story about the company so that people feel good about the company, and buy their products. Instead, we decided to use our money to actually do good things for the community and people really got to like us a lot."
Cohen said: "It's just a spiritual law. It's the way the world works. It's written in the Bible. As you give, you receive. As you help others, others help you. As your business supports the community, the community supports your business. It's just the same. I actually think it's true for nations as well."
He said although not all the franchised stores are on board with the philosophy as part of the sales agreement with Unilever, an independent Ben & Jerry's board of directors was established. They have responsibility and authority over the social mission of the company. Of the five main tabs on the Ben & Jerry's Ice-Cream Web site, the third is "Activism," standing out from among the usual "Company, Flavours, Scoop Shops, Gifts."
The ice-cream industry
Asked where he sees the ice-cream market heading, and what would be the future of the industry, Cohen said he thinks "super premium ice-cream companies like Ben & Jerry's" will dominate.
"Essentially, globally, the two superior ice-cream companies are Haagen Dazs, which is owned by Nestl�, and Ben & Jerry's which is owned by Unilver, and these two goliaths duke it out with each other around the world. What it's created is what people call a price umbrella, so this very expensive ice-cream has created a high price that people will pay for ice-cream, and I think that allows small, local, high quality ice-cream makers to go into business. I think what we're seeing in the US is a proliferation of small, local, high quality ice-cream makers that are now able to compete because they're able to sell at a high amount of money.
"The other thing that has happened, of course, is because of that price umbrella, low quality ice-creams have increased their prices. It's kind of like what happened to Starbucks and coffee."